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Crazy big dream at the top. Rungs working their way up, step by step. The first step can be small, even inconsequential. What matters is that you start climbing.
"It doesn't matter how small that first step is or how seemingly inconsequential."
Look at what you have. Stack the bricks around you. Most planning works this way. You can build something, but the ceiling is set by the materials you already hold.
Dream of the perfect future first. What do you actually want? Then work backward to make it real. The ceiling is set by your imagination, not your inventory.
"Most planning is often done by looking at the bricks and trying to stack them, and then you can create only so much."
Every idea at Canva starts at the chaos end. Each step adds structure until it ships.
"How do you go from chaos to clarity? You add clarity."
A Canva value from day one. Timing is never reliable: what you think will take six months might take two years. They celebrate reached goals with smashed plates, released doves, and a La Tomatina festival.
"A product company not shipping product is not really a recipe for fun."
Build one of the world's most valuable companies.
Do the most good we can do.
Melanie and Cliff gave 30% of Canva equity to the Canva Foundation. $50M donated to GiveDirectly, another $100M committed over four years.
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