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How Melanie Built a $42B Company From Nothing

Melanie Perkins, CEO and co-founder of Canva
Canva: $42B valuation
Framework 01
Column B Thinking
Most planning starts with the bricks in front of you. Melanie flips that. Start with the dream, then work backward.
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Column A
Stack the bricks

Look at what you have. Plan from the ground up. You can only build so high.

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Column B
Dream the castle

Imagine the perfect future first. Then figure out the steps to make it real.

"Most planning is often done by looking at the bricks and trying to stack them, and then you can create only so much."

Melanie Perkins, 00:05:35
Framework 02
Chaos to Clarity
Every idea at Canva starts at the chaos end. Each step adds clarity until it ships.
Chaos
Clarity
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Capture

Write it down

The idea moves from your head to paper. Embarrassing, unfinished, but real.

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Communicate

Create a pitch deck

Others can now see your thinking. The idea is no longer just yours.

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Shape

Designs and prototype

Turn the idea into something you can touch and click through.

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Ship

Launched product

The idea is now real and visible to everyone. Chaos becomes clarity.

"How do you go from chaos to clarity? You add clarity."

Melanie Perkins, 00:12:04
Framework 03
Crazy Big Goals
A value at Canva from day one. The goal should make you feel completely inadequate, so you work like mad to will it into existence.

"The thing that I love about a crazy big goal is that you feel completely inadequate before it. You want to work really hard to will it into existence."

Melanie Perkins, 00:15:08
When a crazy big goal is reached, the team celebrates big:
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Smashed plates
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Released doves
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La Tomatina festival
Timing is unreliable. Something expected in 6 months can take 2 years. The goal stays the same.
By the numbers
Canva at scale
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$3.3B
Annual revenue
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~240M
Monthly active users
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100+
Investors said no
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8 yrs
Profitable straight
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100M
Presentations created monthly
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1M+
Community requests per year
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2,500
Engineers working on the editor simultaneously after the 2-year rewrite
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100+
Languages supported, prints shipped to 50+ countries
All figures stated in the episode by Melanie or Lenny.
Framework 04
The Two-Step Plan
Melanie and Cliff Obrecht originally thought these were sequential. Now they run in parallel.
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Build one of the world's most valuable companies

"Getting really rich is not a goal unto itself whatsoever. It's a means to an end."

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Do the most good we can do

"I wouldn't do Canva if it wasn't going to have a positive impact on the world."

30%
of Canva equity given to the Canva Foundation
$150M
$50M donated + $100M committed to GiveDirectly

"It's better to solve a small number of people's problem really well than trying to solve a large number of people's problem not very well at all."

Melanie Perkins, 00:52:04